tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post1385280686648180818..comments2023-09-27T02:32:05.311-07:00Comments on Bujutsu Blogger: Strongest Move in Shorin RyuBujutsu Bloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10474552364322455131noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post-69113586017552912172009-03-14T14:42:00.000-07:002009-03-14T14:42:00.000-07:00Thanks for your comments.A preplanned response was...Thanks for your comments.<BR/><BR/>A preplanned response was not what I was advocating at all. Instead, it's a complete package that put together, is pretty hard to beat. "What if" games can be played forever, but I am not interested in that. I am not reacting to anything, I am taking control of the situation and enforcing my desired result. There is nothing passive or planned about it about it, nor is it a technique; it is a methodology. In the end it boils down to fighting with the methodology we train for and refine. This move is the epitome of that methodology. If you understand distance, posture, stance, breathing, and timing, you really have no need for anything extraneous.Bujutsu Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10474552364322455131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post-874604028515992072009-03-13T18:58:00.000-07:002009-03-13T18:58:00.000-07:00The best move cannot be pre-planned. It the timing...The best move cannot be pre-planned. It the timing isn't right the "best move" does not work and the worst move might be the ticket. At times a slight bump delivered at the right time in space is better than some powerful "best move" that works well against a static bag but against an unpredictable meth head ..who knows. Fighting is about not planning and not thinking "If I do this move..." that on the street will get you killedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post-9147203964222417832007-12-09T23:38:00.000-08:002007-12-09T23:38:00.000-08:00Someone made a similar comment on Ebudo and I was ...Someone made a similar comment on Ebudo and I was trying to figure out the best way to word a response. You should pop that on there (in the kata bunkai thread in the Gendai Budo->Traditional Karate board).Bujutsu Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10474552364322455131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post-34144270133616155962007-12-07T23:25:00.000-08:002007-12-07T23:25:00.000-08:00The kihon stance bujutsu blogger describes is fund...The kihon stance bujutsu blogger describes is fundamentally different from a sanchin stance. These differ in three primary ways (based on my limited understanding/experimentation with Naha Te). First, only one set of toes are pointed slightly in (the heel is not deliberately thrust out as I have seen in Naha Te, but the slight turn in of the toes has the byproduct of the heel being slightly out), and these belong to the lead foot. The back foot is open with toes pointing 45 degrees. <BR/><BR/>Second, the legs are "collapsed" (please note the quotations) in Naha Te in order to protect vital points in the inner thigh and groing. This "closes" the Sanchin stance. The Kihon stance is very open, with stress being put on the outside edges of the feet. <BR/><BR/>Third, the pelvis is thrust forward, effectively tightening the butt cheeks and closing the anal sphincter to protect vital points in the rear. This also has the effect of applying hara in the completely opposite manner that it is applied in Kihon. Because of the forward thrust of the pelvis, hara is essentially lifted up and back. In Chibana Kihon, the hara is dropped down and forward. <BR/><BR/>While these differences might appear superficial, especially visually, the cumulative effect of these differents result in substantially different methodologies of power generation. Bujutsu Blogger and I have found the Chibana methodology to be the one that makes the most sense for our bodies and the intent behind our training.gijoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00465124504231656243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post-17495653281576400052007-12-07T19:27:00.000-08:002007-12-07T19:27:00.000-08:00Interesting that your descritpion of the stance is...Interesting that your descritpion of the stance is similar to sanchin dachi, the basics anyway, toes in heals out one foot slightly in from of the other.<BR/>Also the movement of the left arm very similar to the "circle blok" in Uechi Ryu.<BR/><BR/>Very interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post-87425665961050996592007-12-07T10:14:00.000-08:002007-12-07T10:14:00.000-08:00I understand where gijoe is coming from. Even with...I understand where gijoe is coming from. Even without any of the "opening segment" of the move I described in my post, if you can apply a dominating walk-in or otherwise dominate the situation, you can hit the man and put him away. That is where the real power lies.<BR/><BR/>The things you mentioned about hips, and the other things unmentioned (backpull, timing, kime, etc.) are all a part of a good punch anyway and are a given when discussing these things, at least from my standpoint. I'm going to rat out gijoe and say he has a very strong punch... he is definitely not using just upper body strength nor is his answer without depth. This depth didn't strike me at first (pun intended) until I really thought about it.<BR/><BR/>As for opening the hips and such, I would say it is far more important to learn your center of balance, which translates to the use of hara .<BR/><BR/>As for my post, I was just lazy and lumped the two techniques together.<BR/><BR/>That being said, you can look at it from an abstract point of view. From understanding how power is derived in punching, one can understand how power is created in everything. If you cannot punch with power, you will most likely have a hard time blocking with power.Bujutsu Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10474552364322455131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post-36251777671736200352007-12-07T09:09:00.000-08:002007-12-07T09:09:00.000-08:00There is no doubt that the punch is the put-away t...There is no doubt that the punch is the put-away technique. howveer, the most significant learning and teaching message is the opening of the hips with the step and block, then the closing of the hip action with the strike. Without this the karateka is relying on upper body strength alone.RenshiRRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15567729195116241354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19111558.post-2682388427112552582007-12-04T03:39:00.000-08:002007-12-04T03:39:00.000-08:00IMHO, the strongest technique, actually is the pun...IMHO, the strongest technique, actually is the punch itself. When timed and executed properly, you put the opponent away.gijoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00465124504231656243noreply@blogger.com